That pic is dishonest and stupid. How many god damned acres of wind turbines are required to replace that one coal plant? And at what cost? Not to mention wind is extremely intermittent, thus can not be relied on at all and will never be any kind of replacement for coal or a nuke. COMERCIAL WIND POWER IS AN UGLY SUBISIDEIZED SCAM. Grow up.
Whilst I don’t agree with the scam part of Nick’s comment, the photos really do not tell the full story. Having previously lived near a wind farm, sure it was better than near a coal power station, but it wasn’t full of rolling fields of green in which to picnic.
[...] know wind turbines are not as ugly as coal stations as ecoscraps reminds me. Which would you prefer to built near you? Tagged as: coal energy ugly [...]
This is an interesting question about wind farm subsidies. I looked into it a little bit and here’s what I found: wind is subsidized, but not as much as the coal, oil, nuclear, and natural gas industries. (http://www.upcwind.com/environment/faqs.cfm)
About the beauty of them, sure, it’s just aesthetics. I live underneath a big mountain wind farm, though, and I’ll tell you what: on a clear day, for me at least, it’s breathtaking.
Yes I agree that it does take more then the few wind farms pictures to replace a coal power plant. But, when you think of the chemical process required to turn coal into energy, and the energy that uses versus the minimal amount that wind farms use. I personally would rather live by a wind farm then a coal plant. The coal dust gets into the air, can seep into your pores, cause skin issues, lung issues and who knows what else, whereas with the wind farm there is NO emission at all!!!!!!!!!!! And for those of you who are still coal this and coal that, guess you would want the Hoover Dam torn down since thats en energy producer, granted not a large scale, but it works. And compare wind farms with nuclear power-when was the last time a wind farm blew up and killed people and caused immense health issues (3 Mile Island, anyone remember that? Or the true story that the movie Erin Brocovich is based on) And I agree with Gaven, I’ve driven by the wind farms in west Texas, and they are beautiful and simplistic. Also to the people who complain that the wind farms are an eyesore, honestly, whats the difference between one of those and a plan old telephone pole? All they really are are windmills that are helping to power the country in a CLEARNER way!!!!!!!
They’re proposing a windmill farm in my town. The opposition is quite vocal and rather large. One of the main arguments is that windmills will ruin the town’s “rural character”. Huh, I never knew that having ATV’s and snowmobiles and dirtbikes wizzing around all the time constituted “rural character”. Ah, and how about that lovely low-income housing and trailer parks that are going up everywhere? Yep, nothing more bucolic than a row of duplexes.
No, I rather think that the windmills with help preserve the rural character because developers are snatching up as much land as they can to build hideous houses and other offensive structures where open fields used to be. The windmills will occupy these spaces and will produce energy at the same time, not just suck energy.
I hope it goes through, Steve. When I look at the windmills outside of our town, it reminds me of human ingenuity at its best. It also feels reassuring that we really are working to come up with better solutions to energy demand than mountaintop removal, tar sands, and coal plants.
ugly has nothing to do with it…it is obvious that coal is deteriorating our ecosystem. Wind will never be able to take over for coal, but it can reduce it a hell of a lot. And no these pictures are not telling the whole truth but it is not that far. Be honest friend, (nick) it makes sens that you would say that, north America combined produces a hell of a lot more Co2 then the EUROPEAN COUNTRIES that are paying for those wind mills to be in North America…grow up.
That pic is dishonest and stupid. How many god damned acres of wind turbines are required to replace that one coal plant? And at what cost? Not to mention wind is extremely intermittent, thus can not be relied on at all and will never be any kind of replacement for coal or a nuke. COMERCIAL WIND POWER IS AN UGLY SUBISIDEIZED SCAM. Grow up.
Whilst I don’t agree with the scam part of Nick’s comment, the photos really do not tell the full story. Having previously lived near a wind farm, sure it was better than near a coal power station, but it wasn’t full of rolling fields of green in which to picnic.
[...] know wind turbines are not as ugly as coal stations as ecoscraps reminds me. Which would you prefer to built near you? Tagged as: coal energy ugly [...]
This is an interesting question about wind farm subsidies. I looked into it a little bit and here’s what I found: wind is subsidized, but not as much as the coal, oil, nuclear, and natural gas industries. (http://www.upcwind.com/environment/faqs.cfm)
About the beauty of them, sure, it’s just aesthetics. I live underneath a big mountain wind farm, though, and I’ll tell you what: on a clear day, for me at least, it’s breathtaking.
Yes I agree that it does take more then the few wind farms pictures to replace a coal power plant. But, when you think of the chemical process required to turn coal into energy, and the energy that uses versus the minimal amount that wind farms use. I personally would rather live by a wind farm then a coal plant. The coal dust gets into the air, can seep into your pores, cause skin issues, lung issues and who knows what else, whereas with the wind farm there is NO emission at all!!!!!!!!!!! And for those of you who are still coal this and coal that, guess you would want the Hoover Dam torn down since thats en energy producer, granted not a large scale, but it works. And compare wind farms with nuclear power-when was the last time a wind farm blew up and killed people and caused immense health issues (3 Mile Island, anyone remember that? Or the true story that the movie Erin Brocovich is based on) And I agree with Gaven, I’ve driven by the wind farms in west Texas, and they are beautiful and simplistic. Also to the people who complain that the wind farms are an eyesore, honestly, whats the difference between one of those and a plan old telephone pole? All they really are are windmills that are helping to power the country in a CLEARNER way!!!!!!!
They’re proposing a windmill farm in my town. The opposition is quite vocal and rather large. One of the main arguments is that windmills will ruin the town’s “rural character”. Huh, I never knew that having ATV’s and snowmobiles and dirtbikes wizzing around all the time constituted “rural character”. Ah, and how about that lovely low-income housing and trailer parks that are going up everywhere? Yep, nothing more bucolic than a row of duplexes.
No, I rather think that the windmills with help preserve the rural character because developers are snatching up as much land as they can to build hideous houses and other offensive structures where open fields used to be. The windmills will occupy these spaces and will produce energy at the same time, not just suck energy.
I hope it goes through, Steve. When I look at the windmills outside of our town, it reminds me of human ingenuity at its best. It also feels reassuring that we really are working to come up with better solutions to energy demand than mountaintop removal, tar sands, and coal plants.
ugly has nothing to do with it…it is obvious that coal is deteriorating our ecosystem. Wind will never be able to take over for coal, but it can reduce it a hell of a lot. And no these pictures are not telling the whole truth but it is not that far. Be honest friend, (nick) it makes sens that you would say that, north America combined produces a hell of a lot more Co2 then the EUROPEAN COUNTRIES that are paying for those wind mills to be in North America…grow up.
Don’t forget that excluded from the coal fire power station picture is the COAL MINE.
Open pit coal mines can be HUGE. It should be included with a picture all by itself to the right
‘Nick’says: “Grow up.”
That’s irony.
I do have to love the, it’s not a perfect solution so we shouldn’t even bother trying argument.
Sounds like you’re the one that needs to grow up.
Why don’t you go live near a coal plant then ask your lungs about the cost.